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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Show Notes</h2>



<p>My guest in this episode is Lola Oyelayo-Pearson, UX Design Director at Shopify.</p>



<p>Lola is an accomplished designer, activist, and director of user experience at Shopify. In our short conversation we cover a wide range of topics from how to tackle &#8220;Wicked Problems&#8221; to climate justice, to whether organisations like Extinction Rebellion are filling a necessary role or are just a plaything for the priviledged.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Resources</h2>



<p>Here are the direct links to resources mentioned in the episode:</p>



<ul><li><a href="https://www.ownyourexperience.com/">Lola&#8217;s</a> website</li><li>Lola&#8217;s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTGW7qKkw">talk at UX Live 2019</a></li></ul>



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