Teena is joined by Esau McCaulley, PhD and John Onwuchekwa, DMin to talk about the narratives that shape our life and faith and the power of narrative in hospitality, business and theology. John shares his journey with Portrait coffee and then into his time curating conversations around grief and hope, connected with his book, We Go On. Esau opens up his story with Reading while Black and the shift into writing a much more personal narrative, How Far to the Promised Land. They also chat about their favorite coffee beans, Esau’s new church plant and the elusive nature of “success”.Watch this conversation on our youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShHjeH27DZ0&t=3678sExplore more from Esau McCaulley: https://esaumccaulley.com/ Explore more from John Onwuchekwa: https://www.johno.co/Discover the Global Faith and Work Initiative here: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/Learn more about the Surge Network here: https://www.surgenetwork.com/