Besides running "Messy Spirituality Podcast", being a columnist writer for Patheos, being a husband, and a father Jason has lived a pretty full life.

From professional wrestling, to bible college, or even his first marriage we learn that Jason has a high threshold for pain, as well as an "all-in" commitment mentality.

Chris, and Omar were in rare form, but Jason took it in stride and delivered a tremendous episode!

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