Host Luke McNamara is joined by Eli Fox and Michael Barnhart, both Senior Analysts at Mandiant, to discuss some of their work tracking various North Korean threat clusters. Michael and Eli share their perspectives on the continuously changing landscape of DPRK threat actors, some of the challenges in tracking them, and how information from defectors augments the technical data in their analysis. They share several stories of recent campaigns and delve into where some of these threats may be headed next.