We discussing hiring and how we define seniority in the field and getting there.

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grant_are_you_a_giver_or_a_taker" rel="nofollow">Adam Grant: Are you a giver or a taker?</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://twitter.com/marcobnz/status/1286401465767141376" rel="nofollow">Marco’s tweet</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Fowler_(software_engineer)" rel="nofollow">Martin Fowler</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/" rel="nofollow">Hacktoberfest</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/rubyday-2020-virtual-edition-tickets-60347221163" rel="nofollow">Ruby Day 2020</a></li>
</ul>

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You can reach us via email at <a href="mailto:hosts@expandingbeyond.it" rel="nofollow">hosts@expandingbeyond.it</a>.

Where to find Monica on the internet:

<ul>
<li>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/KFMolli" rel="nofollow">@KFMolli</a></li>
<li>Github: <a href="https://github.com/nirnaeth" rel="nofollow">@nirnaeth</a></li>
<li>Blog: <a href="https://dev.to/nirnaeth" rel="nofollow">dev.to/nirnaeth</a></li>
</ul>

Where to find Urban on the internet:

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<li>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ujh" rel="nofollow">@ujh</a></li>
<li>Github: <a href="https://github.com/ujh/" rel="nofollow">@ujh</a></li>
<li>Blog: <a href="https://urbanhafner.com/" rel="nofollow">urbanhafner.com</a></li>
</ul>

The intro and outro music is <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Holmes/Happy_Music/Our_Big_Adventure" rel="nofollow">Our Big Adventure</a> by <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Holmes" rel="nofollow">Scott Holmes</a>. It&#39;s licensed under <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/" rel="nofollow">Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (CC BY-NC 4.0)</a>.

Episode 8: I understand your CTO

Monica and Urban discuss their work life as developers and development managers.