Dave is my Father in law.  He lives in Raleigh and is retired from Nortel.  He still manages some real estate properties, one of which is in North Myrtle beach where we recorded this episode, and another one is in Mt. Holly.  Dave was raised in Boonville Indiana, a small town of six thousand residence.  During the podcast Dave estimates that their high school gymnasium seats two or three thousand, but afterwards we looked it up an it actually seats 5650!