Welcome to the Ex Animo Wine Co Podcast: a series of interviews and discussions with winemakers and great minds from the world of wine. In this episode, David Clarke chats with Winemag.co.za Editor and Wine Reviewer, Christian Eedes. This is the 4th annual Wine SONA (State of the Nation) discussion. In it, David poses questions to Christian about the state of SA wine in 2025, such as: - How do we get more South Africans to drink wine?- Why vineyards are decreasing- Foreign wines: why are they not necessarily better than South African wine? *A video version of this interview is available on YouTube*