Evolved Radio
Evolved Radio
Todd Kane
Building Personal Brand To Win at Marketing - ERP139
50 minutes Posted Jun 29, 2026 at 5:50 pm.
) MSPs Becoming Line Items
) Meet Eric Bowles
) From Engineer to Brand Strategist
) Outcomes Over Product Demos
) Behavioral Psychology Roots
) Brand as a Result
) Pax8 Experience Differentiator
) Why Template Marketing Fails
) Neuroscience of Attention Filters
) Talk Human Not Geek
) Document Dont Create Content
) Define Sally Your Real Persona
) Authenticity Beats Perfect Video
) Communication Presence and Zoom Fatigue
) Stage Presence Basics
) Reps Over Perfection
) Authentic Content Wins
) Capture Client Call Gold
) Differentiating MSPs
) Emotion Drives Decisions
) AI Search Changes Buying
) Parasocial Trust Building
) Personal Brand First
) Human Led Marketing Era
) Where To Find Eric
) Just Do It Anyway
) Handling Online Hate
) Wrap Up And Thanks
MSPs Becoming Line Items
Meet Eric Bowles
From Engineer to Brand Strategist
Outcomes Over Product Demos
Behavioral Psychology Roots
Brand as a Result
Pax8 Experience Differentiator
Why Template Marketing Fails
Neuroscience of Attention Filters
Talk Human Not Geek
Document Dont Create Content
Define Sally Your Real Persona
Authenticity Beats Perfect Video
Communication Presence and Zoom Fatigue
Stage Presence Basics
Reps Over Perfection
Authentic Content Wins
Capture Client Call Gold
Differentiating MSPs
Emotion Drives Decisions
AI Search Changes Buying
Parasocial Trust Building
Personal Brand First
Human Led Marketing Era
Where To Find Eric
Just Do It Anyway
Handling Online Hate
Wrap Up And Thanks
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Evolve or Evaporate: Erik Boles on MSP Branding, Anti‑Commoditization, and Human‑Led MarketingOn the Evolved Radio podcast, Todd Kane interviews Erik Boles about why many MSPs look identical online and how that commoditizes them into “line items.” Erik shares his background from early internet businesses to VAR/MSP-era engineering, MX Logic, and early Pax8, explaining that customers care about outcomes and experience more than products or stacks. He argues brand is a result created by people, presence, and “lore,” and that templated marketing gets ignored due to pattern recognition and how the brain filters ads. He recommends MSPs differentiate through human-led communication, storytelling, and documenting real problems in plain business language, often via simple, authentic video rather than polished production. They discuss parasocial relationships, decision-making biases, AI-driven search/answers, and why personal brand should dominate corporate brand (about 95/5) to build trust and demand over time. Links mentioned: opsleader.co; vosa.co/erik; @erikbolz.This episode is brought to you by Opsleader Pro. A place for MSP owners and managers to get the systems and tools they need to build a stable and growing MSP. Part group coaching, part peer group, everything you need to run a successful MSP.
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