<p>Former lawyer, and current doula and grandmother, Cathy McCormick swings by to talk about being a self-described &quot;loudmouth&quot;, how that characteristic has served her throughout her life, and her transitions from lawyer, to childbirth educator, to doula, to grandmother. Cathy is someone both Elizabeth and Rachael love, and soon you&apos;ll love her too. </p>

Down To Earth - Regenerative Organic Agriculture with Jeff Tkach of Rodale Institute

In each episode of Everyday Thin Places, birth doula Elizabeth Varaso and interfaith hospice chaplain Rachael Gallagher ​draw from their experiences supporting birthing people and dying people to explore with honesty, authenticity and humor how we can all become more truly-living people.​  Although birth and death are two of the only truly universal human experiences, we often think of them as painful, frightening and best kept behind closed doors. But behind those closed doors Rachael and Elizabeth have experienced the wonder and delight of “thin places” - those points in space and time where the line between known and unknown, between temporal and eternal, between the ordinary and the transcendent become beautifully blurred.  No matter if you are the kind of person who finds the topics of birth and death thrilling, terrifying or just not all that interesting Rachael and Elizabeth’s conversations with each other and with guests from all walks of life will draw you in and keep you coming back for more.  No topic is off-limits and every episode will have you seeking and savoring the everyday opportunities to visit life’s thin places.