Rachael Gallagher and Elizabeth Varaso interview art therapist, Dana Rummery about her work with hospice patients and their loved ones. Dana explains why and how art can be a “thin place” for all of us. They then discuss some simple ways that anyone can engage in art for self care. Finally they discuss how listeners can find out more about art therapy and support some causes that are important to Dana. Like what you hear and want to help support this podcast?  Say thank you by buying us a cup of coffee! <a href='https://ko-fi.com/everydaythinplaces'> www.ko-fi.com/everydaythinplaces</a> Visit our website at <a href='http://www.everydaythinplaces.com/'>www.everydaythinplaces.com </a>

Bonus Episode: In case it needed to be said, BLACK LIVES MATTER

In each episode of Everyday Thin Places, birth doula Elizabeth Varaso and interfaith hospice chaplain Rachael Gallagher ​draw from their experiences supporting birthing people and dying people to explore with honesty, authenticity and humor how we can all become more truly-living people.​  Although birth and death are two of the only truly universal human experiences, we often think of them as painful, frightening and best kept behind closed doors. But behind those closed doors Rachael and Elizabeth have experienced the wonder and delight of “thin places” - those points in space and time where the line between known and unknown, between temporal and eternal, between the ordinary and the transcendent become beautifully blurred.  No matter if you are the kind of person who finds the topics of birth and death thrilling, terrifying or just not all that interesting Rachael and Elizabeth’s conversations with each other and with guests from all walks of life will draw you in and keep you coming back for more.  No topic is off-limits and every episode will have you seeking and savoring the everyday opportunities to visit life’s thin places.