Matt and Jos share their reactions to watching the documentary, The Secrets of Hillsong, which exposes the scandals and harmful practices within the Hillsong church. They discuss the treatment of individuals who were removed from leadership positions due to addiction and infidelity, questioning the type of support they were provided prior to being cast out. Also delving into the idea of neglected volunteers, Matt and Jos ask if a toxic culture of volunteerism can exist within a church. How does church life turn into excessiveness and burnout?

Churches built on a hierarchical structure have potential to build strength and power, but is it worth it? How does the vision of the church impact our own motivation and our spiritual walks?

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