Paul Jarvis, designer, podcaster, and author of Company of One, joins us to chat about design, business, and his belief that growth isn't always a good thing.

Say hello to Paul on Twitter via @pjrvs

Check out his work at pjrvs.com

About Eureka

Thinker Talk is where we chat with people turning ideas into reality. Hosted by Joey Cofone, co-founder of Baronfig in New York City.

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Edited and mixed by Fina Charleson