This is the last episode of Season 1 of Enneagram Mapmakers where Chris Heuertz interviews Russ Hudson, the co-founder of the Enneagram Institute and co-author of The Wisdom of the Enneagram.

Russ addresses the divide between the Enneagram of Personality and the Gurdjieffian studies of the Enneagram, his friendship and working relationship with the late Done Riso, and Russ also candidly shares his own introduction to the Enneagram and his story of mistyping himself. The show concludes with Russ reflecting on his hopes for the future of this teaching and the movement that’s grow around it.