Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge
“My Brain Would Kill Me if It Didn’t Need the Transportation”
30 minutes Posted Apr 28, 2026 at 7:07 am.
Emotional Sobriety
The Rock is the Thing
The Importance of Emotional Sobriety
Joe and What They Talk About in Recovery
The Fear of Being Nothing
Brandon on Codependence and the Intimate Self
Living on an Airplane
Having Reached a Spiritual Awakening
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Thom’s Nutshell:
“So much energy we spend wishing things to be different.There are always better uses of our time.”
Anxiety is consistent, persistent and disciplined. It wakes up first and works out every morning. To change we must be at least as disciplined. Joe C. talks about the many ways (often with the help of community) we medicate this condition. Allen digs into our relationship with Self, highlighting what we call the “intimate self,” in our navigation of anxiety. This all takes work!
Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:
https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 
Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at jeffersonross.com
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www.emotionalsobriety.info
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Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/
 
Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 
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For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:
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