In the hours and days following President Donald Trump’s re-election, online searches about leaving the U.S. surged. Historically, most folks who have considered a move haven’t taken action, but Tina Strawn is an exception. Anita talks to her about why, as a queer Black woman, she left America in 2020 in search of freedom. Tina answers listener's questions about expat life and shares why she encourages everyone to ask themselves: what would it feel like to be free?

Meet the guest:

- <a href="https://tinastrawn.substack.com/">Tina Strawn</a>, the author of “<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Are-We-Free-Yet/Tina-Strawn/9781955905053">Are We Free Yet? The Black Queer Guide to Divorcing America</a>”

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Dig into the underdiscussed corners of the human experience. Each week, host Anita Rao leads intimate conversations with people unafraid to question what we think we know about identity, relationships and health.Follow the show on Instagram at @embodiedwunc and on Bluesky at embodiedwunc.bsky.social. You can find Anita on Bluesky at asrao.bsky.social.