We sit down with two leaders reshaping philanthropy, Peter Bennett and Leslie Johnson. Philanthropy funds much of the world’s high-risk innovation, early-stage ideas and new economic thinking - often long before markets or governments are able to act. So what role can it play in driving systemic change?The views in this podcast are those of the contributors, and don’t necessarily represent those of CISL, the University of Cambridge, or Investec, and should not be taken as advice or a recommendation.