R and N talk about wearing masks, both literally and metaphorically (mostly metaphorical), reflect on being present in the moment, and discuss their strategies to avoid media propaganda. N shares a story about getting defriended by a former friend because she quoted the Bible to him in the context of redistribution and collective action. We get pretty silly! 

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References: 

Thomas Berry: Recovering a Sense of the Sacred: https://bookshop.org/books/recovering-a-sense-of-the-sacred-conversations-with-thomas-berry/9780988392809

Franz Fanon: The Wretched of the Earth: https://bookshop.org/books/the-wretched-of-the-earth-9780802141323/9780802141323