In part 2 of 2 of this episode, Justin and Matthew sit down with Caleb Kaltenbach, author and pastor, who grew up in the LGBTQ community, gives us some insight in engaging with students in that community and how to engage culture in general.

He addresses both in his two books which we recommend you check out!

Messy Grace:

https://www.amazon.com/Messy-Grace-Parents-Sacrificing-Conviction/dp/1601427360/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1527487990&sr=1-1&keywords=messy+grace+by+caleb+kaltenbach

God Of Tomorrow:

https://www.amazon.com/God-Tomorrow-Overcome-Fears-Future/dp/0735289980/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8