In this episode we cover our adventures in northern Arizona (Flagstaff/Canyon Diablo). We also talk about the untimely passing of Alan White of YES and actor Ray Liotta.

Again, thanks to the parents/grandparents/in-laws for letting us stay at the house in Flagstaff. We certainly enjoyed it!! And thanks to local Arizona Wineries for the wine we drank on our trip.

Research : Meteor Crater- Wikipedia, in person visit and museum staff.

                 Newgalaxydiner.com and Rockspringscafe.com

Podcast Art by Paul Voorhees @ Voorhees Arts. Find him on Facebook at Facebook.com/Voorheesarts and on Instagram @ Voorheesarts

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Intro and outro music by Temporal Displacement. Cd's available for $10.00 with free shipping available in the continental US. Contact us at [email protected]