Ariel Anderssen is the author of Playing To Lose: How a Jehovah’s Witness Became a Submissive BDSM Model.

We chat: Leaving the Jehovah’s Witnesses, BDSM, Eternal Life (yes or no), other Kinks, and so much more.

Drinks with Tony is on iTunes, Spotify, Pandora, and other podcast outlets. It also airs every Thursday evening at 6pm on 101.9 FM, KPCR, Santa Cruz.