Show notes
Let me know what you think of this episode? What if the place you’re trying to escape is the place God is using to form you? Pastor, author, and coach Dustin Kleinschmidt joins us to candidly unpack burnout, depression, leadership wounds, and the surprising joy that can surface when we stop treating life like a problem to solve. Dustin shares how stepping down from a crisis-ridden church didn’t end his pain—it exposed his expectations and led him into a deeper, steadier trust. Drawing from t...


