This is a lively and informal podcast episode featuring hosts Brian and Bobby, and their guest Kacee. They discuss a range of topics relevant to the fire protection industry. Kacee shares how she got into fire protection, her experience as a woman in a male-dominated field, and the challenges she faced gaining recognition as a subject matter expert. She also highlights her involvement in developing NFPA certifications and her recent completion of an MBA. The boys emphasize the importance of personal and professional growth, and the value of pursuing certifications like the CFPS. They engage in a lively debate about the pros and cons of the new Milwaukee cordless groover, with Brian expressing skepticism about its practicality for sprinkler fitters. Kacee discusses her journey into health and fitness, emphasizing the importance of small, sustainable changes and dispelling myths about weight loss. She also talks about her nutrition coaching program and offers a discount to listeners. The hosts discuss their travel plans and upcoming shows, including a potential sponsored episode and a trip to Mexico for an NFPA expo. Follow Kacee on Instagram @pacee_kaige and her fitness page @yournutritionpaige.