We talk to comedian/actor/writer Mary Holland about the reality show Survivor! We talk about why it's so compelling, how it's outlasted so many other types of shows, the human drama it displays, the smart ways to play the game and the skills of host Jeff Probst. Also, Will talks about Beethoven's 3rd symphony (The "Herorica") and Anthony talks about the book The Comedians by Kliph Nesteroff.