In the second episode Justina and Brian exchange stories about their first dogs. This conversation serves as an intro into the main theme of this episode - the connection between dogs and people. We could not have found a better person to discuss this with than a psychology professor Clive Wynne who directs the Canine Science Collaboratory at Arizona State University in Tempe. Clive shares various stories about the research of the dog's mind and behavior, we discuss the origins of the dog and many misconceptions that we form about this animal. All of which can help us understand what dogs actually are and how we can give them the best lives possible. You can learn more about Clive's work and his book - Dog is Love - here: https://www.clivewynne.com/