CW: We talk about suicide and depression in this one.

Andrew talks to Jesse Locke about the recent sudden loss of David Berman, what his art has meant to them, and how hard it is to navigate a lonely world. 

Read the obituary Jesse wrote: https://nowtoronto.com/music/features/david-berman-silver-jews-purple-mountains-in-memoriam/

Read Berman's Clip on Tie: https://thebaffler.com/stories/clip-on-tie