Deena and Simon discuss the idea of "quitting" academia, talk about their path to getting their PhDs, and how both staying and leaving academia can make you feel like you've wasted your time.

The CBC article that sparked this conversation is: From professor-in-waiting to florist: Why some PhDs are quitting academia for unconventional jobs.

We want to hear from you! Let us know on Twitter, at @DYES_podcast, if you feel your academic training was a waste because you left or maybe it's the opposite and you feel staying in academia was a waste.

Side note, the phenomenon Simon was refering to, where you hear about something then it seems to be everywhere, is The Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon.