For summer recess, we return to our favourite episodes of all time where we explain the very essence of our conception of the Enduring Disorder as a period in which Disordering Neo-populists have come to power and have made the world more disorderly so they can stay in power. If you didn’t hear this when it came out on Sept 19, 2023--when we launched--I think you’ll enjoy checking it out now.Over the past few decades leaders like Trump, Orban, and Bolsonaro have ridden a wave of popular outrage to rise to power.  But what came first: the Neo-Populists or the era of Global Enduring Disorder?In this episode we chart the rise of the Neo-Populists, their impact on global order, and what we can do to stop them. Sean Wilentz explains the difference between real populism (like Bernie Sanders) and ‘faux’ or neo-populists (like Trump), while Anne Applebaum takes us through the missed opportunities and co-ordination failures of the post-Cold War years.For ad free listening, early release episodes and more bonus content, join our Mega Orderers Club at disordershow.com/clubProducer: George McDonaghSubscribe to our Substack - https://natoandtheged.substack.com/Disorder on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShowShow Notes Links:For more from Anne Applebaum, visit https://linktr.ee/anneapplebaum   For more on Sean Wilentz, visit https://history.princeton.edu/people/sean-wilentz For more on Jonathan Winer, visit https://www.mei.edu/profile/jonathan-m-winer For more on Jamie Shea, visit https://www.chathamhouse.org/about-us/our-people/jamie-sheaLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices