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OverviewArmin has vast experience as an actor, but enjoys a playhouse also. He has studied Shakespeare and teaches students about Shakespeare. And yet, he had the desire to write.We have a great discussion about the different activities he does along with writing and why he chose write in the first place. Authors, there is a lot of great information that you really should listen to.YouTubehttps://youtu.be/NsnCgT239LcTranscript[[And by the way, I’ve been writing this particular series for about 20 years. Yeah. But with my newer computer, my new Mac it’s on page it’s. So it’s always done on a computer. I am. A go that people who write with pencil and paper, because that’s really hard to switch things around if you want, oh, wait, that shouldn’t happen until later.Or I need this to happened at the end to happen earlier. It’s so easy to cut and paste with a computer, but you can’t do with pencil and paper. And, uh, and I like to erase. I like to go, nah, that’s not any good cut. Cut it all out. So it’s just easier to do that with a computer than it is with paper and.Yes.[[[Sorry, what were you gonna. I[[[As I said before, One is a rather lonely process. That’s the writing and you’re sparking yourself, or you’re inspiring yourself off of thoughts that you have or things that you see in front of you on the screen that you’ve written. And so that is a very lonely process. Acting is, as I said before, a communal process, and you’re working off of different people.There are two philosophies about acting in America. One is called the actor studio. Everybody’s familiar with that. And the other one is called the neighborhood play. The actor studio. It says that all of your life comes within and it’s, and I’m overstating this and not saying it, but that comes from experiences and you relive those experiences.The other one, the neighborhood class, which I am a fan of says that all life comes from the other person and whatever the other person is doing, you take your inspiration from that, whether it’s [and so that’s community, so they’re different mindsets. They’re both creative, but it’s a very different process, a very different process. And I’m very good at one, which is the communal process. And I’m steadily getting better in the other process.[You get that, oh my gosh, this sucks. Nobody’s ever going to like it. And to say, I’m getting better. I love that because hopefully the whole idea of the podcast is to help other new authors and inspire them. Okay. I can do this. Other people are doing it. So I appreciate you saying.[And thank you for saying that, which is you always get no matter what you [Invariably, something will happen. You’ll start to write something. It may be just three words. It may be 300 words. But something will happen. You just have to make yourself available for the muse to whisper in your ear. If you don’t do that, she won’t talk to you and you’ll never get anything done. So whether it’s good or bad is moot, what’s important is that you sit down and that you and you open yourself up to the experience of possibly writing something.And invariably something does come and you’ll be so happy at the end of the day that you did it. Right. Love[Like you would in a book.[Although the words are there, you are inventing what the [A little bit more responsibility, a little bit more practice, but still not responsible for the whole story. Then there’s the third level, which is the series regular and on TV show where you’re carrying a lot of the story and you’re telling a lot of the story, but again, there are probably 6, 7, 8 series regulars.And so you are only telling your one eighth of that. So those, each of those is a different responsibility each with a different take the day player or the one day guest star, we can call it that too. Is struggling to move. As quickly as the guy who’s been on the show for six years, who knows his character back and forth [Whereas you, as the one day guest star are totally in the dark and you’re making a lot of guesses and hoping keeping your fingers crossed that what you’re doing is right in the others. You have more understanding, you have more insight into what the whole project is and how you fit into that. So[Did you find after being cork for so many years that the, it was easy to write a story with that character in your head?[And how does, because it was science fiction. What are we doing here? What world am I creating? What making it up instead of being making it up as I went [There are no travel is different. One of, one of the discussions I have with my editor often is why can’t they just send a message? I go, they can, but it’s going to take a week. It’s going to take a week to get from Europe to England. And it depends on the weather. Whether the boat can get through, these are all new challenges that you have to say, oh, I gotta deal with the world that existed.I can’t just make it. I can’t just have somebody beam from one place to the other in nano. So that, that’s one of the things you have to do. So that, that’s it.[I guess,[And of course that comes out of the character, but I’m much more interested. It’s strange to say this I’m much more interested in the dialogue as a writer than I am as an actor, I’m dealing with a three dimensional human being. And of course what they say, but as a writer, I’m interested in what they’re saying more than I am in who they are, at least that’s the way I think.Anyway.[[Yes. You ask things in your mind and then they’re cast for you the first day of firstly. Oh, that’s who’s playing Hamlet. I see. Okay. And I, again, on stage, you think of them as real people and you are cause you are standing on stage. It’s not just this working. It’s not just the mind working. Everything is working.Your arms are working. Your legs are working. Your back is working your how close am I to the couch? How far away am I from the door? How close is the first audience member? Can they hear me in the back. There are many things happening when you’re on stage that you don’t have to worry about as a writer and you don’t have to [You don’t have to worry about projecting on camera. You don’t have to worry about making sure that you open the door for someone to leave on stage. Whereas you, what? You don’t have to worry about that on camera. Because if you don’t do it, cut, we’ll do it again and get it. So there are many things that you are considering while you’re on stage, even as you’re listening very intently for the audience response.If the people, if the audience thinks they’re sitting in the dark and the actors can’t see them, or aren’t aware of them, they’re totally wrong. The after you’ve gotten over your nerves of performing the part, which happens within the first week of previews, then everything you’re doing. Is listening for the response of what the audience even silence, you’re listening for silence.And then of course, you’re also keeping your ears open. To any nuances that the actor on stage that’s working with [[[And because I’ve spent so much time performing Shakespeare and I have done a lot of Shakespeare, I am. I’m interested in the sound. I can write something that’s rhetorically. Correct. But if it doesn’t sound right to me as an actor, then it’s wrong. My characters [I, it, and that is my actor’s brain saying it doesn’t sound right. It doesn’t sound right. And that I think is probably true for every script writer. Who, whoever wrote on TV or film, it might be the right line, but it’s not, it doesn’t sound right. That’s a choice. That’s a creative choice that, that you make in addition to everything else.How does it sound? Right. Because Shakespeare picked words sometimes for their sound, which is part of rhetoric as well. But the word sounded like what he wants it to mean, or he knows what he wants it to. But he picks the right word. That has sound the echo of the feeling as well as the definition[And not only just picked it, but sometimes would make up his own word that has become part of our lexicon since [[I correct them immediately. You know, Shakespeare’s modern English, middle English, cha, which when that, with the, which that’s middle English, that’s only a hundred years. There are people alive today that are a hundred years old. That’s only a hundred years. Between middle English and modern English and yes words, all kinds of things were being created in language.And we had all these dialects also because of commerce. People were meeting each other because they were able to because of commerce.[And you work with them in a way that an actor can help each other. Tell us a little bit about that and why you chose to do something like that.[She doesn’t need Rick. And what she did was take boys who were incarcerated, not in prison, but in, in juvenile lockup and, and gave them and introduced them to literature by having them write their own story. And the first one I went to was in a bookstore in west. And I was so moved by these stories that I rushed over to Liz and thanked her immensely for that fast forward.A couple of [God forbid, I, that, that would’ve been horrendous. But rather what we did was take themes from Shakespeare that these boys could identify with. For instance, I remember starting with king Leer. We have two brothers in king Le we have one that’s a Bastar literally. His mother and father were not married.The other one is rejected by his father and is an outcast because his father won’t accept. These were though they’re Shakespearean plot lines. These are things that the boys understood and in some cases had lived. [We’ve done it with other plays as well. Henry the fifth Richard. So we get them interested in that and they realize that their lives are not unique, that other people have gone through the same troubles woes that they have. And then slowly we ask them to write about themselves and it’s never criticism.It’s just an expansion. Go further with that. What more do you want to. You suggest over here that, that this is happening. I know that’s a sensitive area for you. Would you mind going a little further with that? That we don’t always succeed, but we open people up to writing one, but two showing their inner [And what’s amazing is oftentimes in, in these incarcerated situations, we have different gangs. One person from one gang is opening up to someone in another gang, and that is a phenomenal experience. And then the, the culmination of all, this is a presentation after probably about six months of work to, to an audience of people that come to listen to these play.Excuse me, come to listen to these short stories. As I came to that bookstore in Westwood and the response is always the same. These stories are so galvanizing, so heartfelt, so amazing, so different in the life experience of most of the people in the theater and that. There’s a five, 10 minute standing ovation for these boys.And they bask in [[[They take. And they realize their lives can be better, that they are worthwhile. They’re doing something that people respect, like admire appreciate, and that gives them something to hang onto to say, you know what? I can do [[Everything you just said, I’ve been trying to do the same thing. Using story and video games, because I see a lot of kids. The anxiety level in kids’ twenties has risen. I’ve seen the statistics, it’s gone up like 18% over the last decade. And it’s because we tell them, you need to go to school. You need to make something of yourself.But what they see is school that’s expensive and doesn’t get you a job doing what you have to pay back. And the jobs are disappearing. You can’t get jobs at McDonald’s and there’s despair there. They don’t, what do I. And we haven’t given them all the alternatives. It takes time for them to say, I could write, I could act, I could be a comedian.I talk to a lady who does all those things. And I think sometimes we need to show the kids, the alternatives, what they can do and give them [[I think that’s really important. I think to give people self worth is something we need to do all the time, especially for people who are born into situations that are not as lucky or as good as other.[Have there been any books published?[Sometimes the faces are the same, but most of the time it’s a new group of boys. And we now do this with girls as well, but no, it’s a fault, a grievous fault that, I admit to no, I’ve never really checked up on[I totally believe if we can show the kids something more beyond the despair and the my gosh, look at all these problems[[That’s a troubled school, the like that eighties [And I’d love to see that change some lives, that something that they’ve never, what do you mean I can make? You don’t need a ton of. This added other thing to write a story or program a video game, or even draw. These are all things tools that they can do and use right there in high school and middle school.I would love to work with a group to do that and see the changes[[[Thank you. I, we didn’t actually talk about inspirational authors. I have quite a few of those. Oh, you have to please tell me Hillary mantel. A series of books that everyone should know as, oh my God. Wolf fall, which were very inspirational. There’s a recent book out by a lady named Maggie Flannery. Called Hamnet, which is a beautiful book.These are authors that in, in Hillary Mantel’s case, after reading Wolf hall, I stopped writing for 10 years. And the reason I stopped writing was I can’t write like that. That’s extraordinary writing. And I what’s the point of even trying to emulate that, cuz it was the, the periods weren’t the same. They were [But the desire to the same sort of story was mine to tell as. And although she didn’t have fictional characters, but so that stopped me for 10 years because I was in awe for writing. But what I came to find out was don’t be intimidated by good writers. Let them inspire.[Thousands tens of thousands, millions of people that love star Trek. And I would probably line up forever if you allowed them to talk to you at conventions and whatever else. And even you were like, man, I don’t think I could do that. So it’s a human thing. We need to understand and realize that because we all can write and create.Be addition to the world in that way.[If anyone reads it, that’s the icing on the cake. If they like it even more icing on the cake. It’s important of course, for them to like it, but it’s really much more important for you to do it. Great. So you see the mountain climate. Get to the other side, know that you’ve done it and reward yourself for having done something that was before thought of is[Thank you. Love it. I appreciate that. Thank you

