Mateo talks with retired public school teacher of 25+ years (and his brother) Stephen Gutiérrez about his life as an ESL (English as a Second Language) teacher in the Ann Arbor Public School system. Where did it all go wrong? What were some of the causes and effects of mass shootings on your life as a teacher? Where do we go from here and how does this all relate to art and the purpose of art today? You can view Mateo&apos;s artwork on his website: <a href='https://www.mateogutierrez.net/'>www.mateogutierrez.net</a> All Devouring Saturn podcast episodes are <a href='https://www.mateogutierrez.net/devouringsaturn'>here</a> And you can follow Mateo on Instagram: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/mateoembroiders/'>@mateoembroiders</a>

Devouring Saturn is a podcast that captures the conversations between visual artist Mateo Gutiérrez and visitors to both his studio and public exhibitions of his work. He invites authors, historians, activists, fellow artists, educators, social workers, politicians, anthropologists, philosophers, and many more into his studio and he also takes his work directly to the public by self-exhibiting his work throughout the US. The guiding theme of the podcast is the democratization of art along with the empowerment of ordinary people to talk about and solve the problems faced in American society through the lens of art.