<p>Andry Robbins stops by to talk with Jared and Jonny, to continue the discussion of detection vs. prevention in the infosec realm - and the accountability that comes with it. <a href="https://www.dcppodcast.com/all-episodes/episode-20" target="_blank">Episode Guide</a> (featuring new episode transcripts!)</p>

Episode 21: Anton Ovrutsky

Have you ever wondered why something is done the way it is, only to find out that this is "just the way it has always been done"? Sometimes it is necessary to challenge the paradigm in which we find ourselves operating to discover a more true understanding of the problem, this change of thinking is referred to as a "paradigm shift". In this podcast, we explore detection and response to define the presuppositions that describe the craft, while also engaging in long form discussion with some of the industry's leading experts to challenge the convention we find ourselves operating within.