In part two of episode 48 Mike Joosse, Partner and Community Director at DESIGNATION, joins Gary Rozanc to discuss the ins and outs of UX and UI bootcamps vs. traditional 4 year graphic design programs, and the similar struggles that both face when training emerging designers. The discussion goes in depth on the ideal students for bootcamps, working with real clients on real projects, and built in assessments to keep the curriculum cutting edge.