Clinical Psychologist Dr Damon Ashworth interviews Osteopath Dr James Gillard on their fourth Deliberately Better Challenge. They first recap on how they went with their third monthly challenge about James reading more books, and Damon focusing on his right knee rehabilitation following his ACL injury back in February 2020. They then discuss their fourth challenge of James trying to implement the Wim Hof method daily by practising his breathing and taking daily cold showers and Damon ordering Macros and aiming to eat more healthily.