Happy Hanukkah! In this special episode, Raina requested a conversation about patriotism, fandom, and Captain America's Jewish roots. Stevie and Raina discuss the difficult nature of a character who embodies America,, the importance of Captain America in a Jewish context, and what to do with cognitive dissonance between fanon and canon.

Content warnings for: Mention of explicit fanfiction, including anal play and gangbangs. Both are mentioned pretty briefly, although Stevie perhaps goes on a bit too long about tossing salads. Sorry about that

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Many of the fics Stevie mentions in this episode were written by Hansbekhart. Further shout outs to the the fanart of bluandorange, faun-songs (now chernozemm), and silentwalrus1.