Decoding the Gurus
Decoding the Gurus
Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne
A Sense-Making Odyssey, Part 1: Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke & Jordan Hall
2 hour 15 minutes Posted Sep 11, 2025 at 11:30 am.
Introduction
Entering the Dangerzone
Decoding Begins
The Vertical Cometh
Jordan Peterson's Sensemaker Grammar
Conscience = Vertical Hierarchy of Value
Worthwhile Conversations
Conscience and Values
Vervaeke's Perspectival Stance
A Quick Recap on Concepts
The Conversation Quest
Jordan Peterson's Theology
Turn Taking Monologues
Enter Normativity
Ideals & Goals
Orgiastic Materialists worshipping the Golden Calf
Jordan Hall defines Normativity
Sensemaking Friction
Enter the Touchstone
The Sensemaking Journey so far...
Closing Thoughts on Part 1
Sensemakers must Sensemake about Sensemaking
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Join Matt and Chris as they enter an intellectual labyrinth of recursive sensemaking featuring the combined insights of Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke, and Jordan Hall. You will learn about many, many deep and complex concepts and puzzle over definitions of conscience, the vertical hierarchy, value, normativity, goals & ideals, quests, the ultimate unifying meta-narrative, self-sacrifice, and touchstones.

With frequent excursions into a wild assortment of biblical stories, Platonic philosophy, Jungian psychology, Martial Art stances, and much, much more! This is a voyage through the refracted and refracting philosophical frameworks of three contemporary sensemaking powerhouses.

So get your oars ready and prepare your mind to taste the Dialogos, vis-à-vis Moses...

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