Much like a Taylor Swift song week 3 of Jenn's season is full of toxic men, cars to getaway in, and sad blue eyes. But thankfully I am joined by artist and deep pit member, Ella Talkin, to dissect this State Of Grace and the context of all in which we live. ALSO Ella encourages me to start a huge creative project. Tune in to hear!

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