A conversation between Jordan, Ed C, and Dylan Macturk, featuring interactive audio segments from the following:
*Mariame Kaba - Founder and director of Project NIA, co-founder of Survived and Punished, follow her on Twitter @prisonculture

*Sam Mitrani - professor of history at College of DuPage, author of The Rise of the Chicago Police Department: Class and Conflict

*Reginald Stroud, InYourDefense, Beau of the 5th Column - YouTube

*Kyla Jenee Lacey - poet & activist @kylajlacey

Suggested Reading:
Are Prisons Obsolete? by Angela Davis

If They Come In The Morning by Angela Davis

Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Friere

Instead of Prisons: A Handbook For Abolitionists

As Black As Resistance by Zoe Samudzi & William Anderson

Pushout: The Criminalization of Black Girls In Schools by Monique Morris

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