The Times Tech Podcast
The Times Tech Podcast
The Sunday Times
PayPal’s Max Levchin on Donald Trump, Elon Musk and mega-IPOs
45 minutes Posted Jul 2, 2026 at 11:01 pm.
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Affirm CEO, PayPal co-founder, original member of the 'PayPal Mafia' Max Levchin joins Danny Fortson and Katie Prescott to talk about moral moneylending, Elon Musk, mega-IPOs and why there are so many tech bosses in Washington. As he puts it – “If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu.”


Meanwhile, Anthropic has announced that Claude Fable 5 will be released again globally after the Trump administration's ban. Plus, Danny and Katie discuss the latest trend in Silicon Valley - the rise of voice AI and the death of the keyboard. Is it hot air or if we are really in a new era of "yapping, rather than tapping"? On that note, Norman, Katie's AI agent, finally (and terrifyingly), has a voice.


Would you swap your keyboard for voice-to-text software? Get in touch: [email protected]


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Producer: Marnie Duke

Executive Producer: Priyanka Deladia

Video Producer: Bronwen Latham

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