My friend Jamie Hall was in town for a short visit. We had not seen each other in 3 years since he and his family moved to Philadelphia in 2019. We were going to meet up for coffee . I had shared about the podcast and after our coffee time, we took a drive around the east side of Cincinnati for a road trip conversation. Jamie is a pilot and better yet a captain with a major airline. I knew him best as a business owner and entrepreneur. I hope you enjoy our conversation.