On this episode of Damn, Dad Knows It All, Michelle Brown and Shannon Cannaday interview Van Hawkins while looking into the origins of the advice: &quot;Be A Leader, Not A Follower&quot;
 
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Sources:
<a href="https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/vernon-davis-quotes" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Vernon Davis</a>
<a href="https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/it_takes_a_follower_to_be_a_leader" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">MSU</a>
<a href="https://www.quora.com/I-just-thought-about-the-saying-don-t-be-a-follower-be-a-leader-but-if-everyone-in-the-world-was-a-leader-there-would-be-none-to-lead-because-no-one-is-a-follower-Am-I-wrong" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Quora Corner</a>

Mini Episode: Nothing Good Happens After Midnight

Michelle Brown and Shannon Cannaday look at the advice they received from their moms, explaining the origins of the phrases and providing examples of how they did (or did not) take their mom's advice over the course of their lives.