Brian recounts his first week of recovery from his lower eyelid surgery and hears Judson’s perspective on their trip to Sephora with Brian’s kids. Judson shares a lovely Daddy/Son experience and talks about how he navigates some of the challenges of a corporate job. The two then talk kissing–from their first kisses to practicing on their pillows to what makes a good kisser to how much more there is than lip-kissing. They end with Judson reaching into his own experience to address a listener’s question about how to rebuild trust in his relationship after learning his partner has begun experimenting with crystal meth.