Jeff Hollander and Paul Pirner, founders of Hairless Dog Brewing Company stop by the podcast to talk about creating a business, branding, the stigma of NA, music, and how two entrepreneur dads created the best NA beers I have ever had. Hairless Dog brews can be found in your local Bevmo, Total Wine or on their website and for a chance to win a free case of your favorite HDB style visit: https://www.drinkhairlessdog.com/deals Instagram: @hairless_dog_brewingInstagram: @mrjosedelaroca