Brent Blum is joined by Jake Brend filling in for Chris Williams to recap Thursday's interviews with Jimmy Rogers and Ross Watson. Brend and Blum have a nuanced conversation about the Iowa State and Penn State relationship and what feelings fans might have this fall. The guys continue to share their excitement for this upcoming season and some of the advantages Iowa State might have early in the year as an unknown team. Plus, they react to Jamie Pollard announcing he won't be around for basketball season and why that timing is important for the athletic department. Finally, they close by expressing why the T.J. Otzelberger era is just getting started. Presented by Mechdyne in the Northwest Bank Studios.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices