Cyberunions
Cyberunions
Cyberunions
Cyberunions Podcast Episode 90: Identity politics lacks class
57 minutes Posted Dec 5, 2016 at 3:55 pm.
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Tech
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Intro (
0:28)
Swimming in the lake at 8 C/ 46 F
The site will be moving and design changes to cyberunions.org and it will be more mobile friendly
Steel plant in Germany and worker perspective with a more internationalist perspective
Reminds of Capital Moves: The RCA story 
Passing of Fidel and the end of an era
Transition from Fidel to Trump… is it the end of Neoliberalism? Trump ‘Saving jobs in Indiana’
Main Topic (
10:42)
Threatening rise of fascism
Giving out This Machine kills Fascists 
The big fight of identity and class politics
Liberals have defended identity politics and occused people bringing up class as white privilege
SDP and Communist parties fought each other and the splits let the right come to power, we need to make sure that does not happen again
Jacobin magazine historical map of the left in the US (PDF)
Highlighting The Guardian newspaper covering identity politics well but not showing up to a strike
Identity politics alone seems simple to solve but it has potential for large repercussions, LGBTQ rights comng about in the US at least is great but not everyone is on board with it where class issue is missed. 
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19:45)
Capitalists don’t care about LGBTQ but they will exploit the split of the working class
Gains in identity politics is more commonly found in the upper class
In the film “Pride” Gay and Lesbians support the miners 
Shows the struggle of breaking down divisions it will take us a long time but we will grow and become stronger
Liberals stop blaming voters, instead blame the movements that failed
We need to hold the line and defend identity politics but need to bring class into it
The backlash is it left out half of the equation
Socialist and revolutionary groups are seeing quite an uptick in membership and interest
When did we ever have democracy
Scotland shows great signs of positive changes in working class 
The wierdness factor is still there, president is not held to conflict of interest laws
In a bizarre state of mind of want to know what happens but we are not a game of Sims
Spent life fighting Neoliberalism and now it is like oh shit neoliberalism might be better
Capitalist will they oddly be in a place of ‘saving us’ in certain parts i.e. capitalist supporting LGBTQ
Keep in mind there are splits in capitalism too
A wait and see that we don’t want to wait and see
The passing of Fidel thinking back on the legacy of Fidel
Tech (
39:30)
Rebuilding the commons, things have changed since we started, but we still have not figured it out
The ongoing challenge of social media in the public commons
Do we give up on social media and do really targeted communication
What is the problem we are trying to solve it seems it is more like we are trying to still replace email
Signal, Whatsapp and Telegram replacing social media seems we want the immediate communication and secure and accessible instead
Facebook is becoming a newsfeed, a don’t tag people and let them decide, privacy is being grasped
Not writing off XMPP/Jabber
Do we want Cyberunions to be more of a role of advising and research for unions and develop a transition process
One example is a group in Mexico called Sursiendo that developed an adaptation and adoption plan to free and open source software
Should we open a facebook group for cyberunions as general outreach and awareness as people are there and we could use it as just a news outlet feed come to https://telegram.me/cyberunions
Not to endorse the Facebook game and we want to pull people away there are a lot of leftist groups that have developed strength from there
Outro (
54:23)
Dockers podcast shoutout 
Rate and review us on Itunes to expand our reach, we know many of our listeners use iPhones
Telegram group https://telegram.me/cyberunions
Look we created a podcast