How is it that the adversary always seems to be advancing faster than we can possibly keep up and what is the best strategy in the unwinnable game of cybersecurity? In this episode with Gene Spafford, professor of computer science at Purdue University and executive director emeritus at the Purdue University Center for Education and Research in Information Assurance and Security, we discuss: Who and what could be behind the pileup of attacks on security vendors; How our democracy and freedom of speech allows for exploitation by the adversary; Why our current solutions seem to create more problems than they solve; And the need for a bigger push to develop secure and resilient systems.