<p>In this episode, Cheri Hotman sits down with Diane Jones to explore the intersection of cybersecurity, engineering, and artificial intelligence. Drawing on her background in systems engineering and security, Diane shares her journey into AI governance and discusses how organizations can move beyond the hype and fear surrounding AI to focus on practical, actionable risk management. From NIST and ISO frameworks to developing her own AI admissibility framework, Diane offers valuable insights into building trustworthy, governable AI systems that deliver real business value.</p>

Cybersecurity is as much art as it is science or technology. It must be creatively designed, right-sized, implemented, and sustained—all within stealthy constraints: finite time, budget, resources. Meanwhile, customers demand this framework, that standard, and yet another security questionnaire. It’s a lot to juggle—balancing security that genuinely protects people and data with the theater that often slips into meaningless checkbox exercises. On this podcast, expect sharp, unfiltered conversations about the realities of cyber and what it truly takes to do it right—and make it actually matter.