Welcome to Barclay Damon Live: Cyber Sip™. In episode 42, “Social

Engineering: The People Problem of Cybersecurity,” host Kevin Szczepanski is joined by Arun Vishwanath, a cybersecurity thought leader, author, and chief technology officer at Avant Research Group. Arun discusses his latest book from MIT Press, The Weakest Link: How to Diagnose, Detect, and Defend Users From Phishing, wrapping it into meaningful information about cybersecurity training and testing. Starting with a definition of “social engineering,” which refers to hackers directly targeting users with technology, Arun and Kevin agree that currently testing and training aren’t solving the problem and discuss potential solutions. Listen in for more.