This week Leo is joined by Edinburgh based DJ Aleem Ellingtone to chat to Scottish artist Sam Macinnes. Sam had just finished his MAFA degree when we spoke and I was keen to hear about his experiences at art school, along with a deeper conversation into his amazing artwork. Much of Sam&apos;s art is to do with lad culture and asks important questions about toxic masculinity in contemporary society. From finding inspiration in a club bathroom to creating a cast of animal characters in which to play out his ideas, Sam&apos;s practice stands out as being very unique and refreshingly honest.  By using humour to bring to light important issues Sam is able to bring into conversation topics that might otherwise remain unspoken. <a href='https://www.instagram.com/thee_dudee_zonee/'>https://www.instagram.com/thee_dudee_zonee/</a> <a href='https://www.instagram.com/djellingtone/'>https://www.instagram.com/djellingtone/</a> <a href='https://www.instagram.com/curatingconversation/?hl=en'>https://www.instagram.com/curatingconversation/?hl=en</a><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/curatingconversation">Support the show</a>

Ica Headlam. Creative Me Podcast

We talk to interesting people leading the way in the creative industries to find out how they got there, why they do it and what other people might learn from them. From artists, curators, actors and musicians to professors, freelancers, and technicians there are so many roles that fit in with being creative. We have these conversations to understand their passions from a different perspective and hopefully come away a bit wiser than we went in! Every episode features a new guest, having a relaxed, fun chat and sharing their experiences, enjoy! These conversations are hosted (usually) by the Creative Director of Rafiki Studio and The Rafiki Gallery, Leo Sartain.