Rod Dreher's most recent book is Living In Wonder, Finding Mystery and Meaning in a Secular Age. Our conversation was recorded the day after Pope Francis died, so that was on our minds and receives a good bit of our discussion. Also, we discuss the new documentary series from Angel Studios based on Rod’s earlier book Live Not By Lies.Rod Dreher Substack | TwitterLive Not By Lies From Angel StudiosLiving In Wonder Cultural Debris on YouTubeCultural Debris Excursions - Travel With Us!Cultural Debris Patreon - Support the podcast!Cultural Debris Twitter | Instagram