Brad joins the duo this week with a real thinker of a topic, how our unrecovered selves can sometimes be our most recovered. Claire and Corey get real, real with their guest with some serious ponderings. What if relapsing is not a failure? What does Al-Anon relapsing look like? Is our SHAME (Should Have Already Mastered Everything) the one in control? And there's some serious cross-talk about bagels.