"Fentanyl has been killing people!" said our guest, Darren Taylor, a substance abuse counselor and recovering addict (24 years) from Racine, Wisconsin.

He tells Tony about how self-care was a major factor in his recovery. Darren also discusses the difference, and it is huge, between abstinence and recovery. They are NOT the same. Mental health assessments are also essential in treating the whole person.

This is a fascinating and important podcast, especially if you are a drug addiction counselor. Darren and Tony have time-tested advice for you.

Darren can be found at www.jaminracine.com.